In a time of great division, we become positional and put up our walls. So in this episode with the University of Utah’s Dr. Danya Rumore, we talk about how to attack problems, not people, avoid zero-sum thinking, and manage our needs to come together in a time marked by cancel culture, aggression, and a breakdown of dialogue. We even dive into the mass migration to the rural Mountain West and how income inequality, housing affordability, and water issues necessitate greater skills in conflict and dialogue.

Alexandra Jabs, Training Director at Rare, and Claudia Quintanilla, Training Director at Rare Brazil, join the podcast to discuss Rare’s approach to conservation through community partnership and capacity building. Through this model, Rare is able to create highly localized solutions to global conservation issues.

Darrin Kayser of Booz Allen Hamilton joins the podcast to discuss his work to reduce military energy use and how culture change strategies provided the key to doing so.